Used BCM - Advisable?
#1
Used BCM - Advisable?
I have a 94 Eagle Vision. It's been extremely dependable and low-maintenance, but not long ago, all the instrument panel indicators stopped working, including speedo, tach, fuel and temp gauges, and odometers. The panel is still illuminated, but that's all.
Changing the instrument panel fuse did not fix the problem. It's been suggested that the problem is with the BCM (Body Control Module), or BCM circuit board.
A new BCM is about $500, and similar for the circuit board. Rather than paying the dealer $1000+ for new items, I was thinking about getting a BCM and/or board from a junkyard and putting it in myself, to see if that fixes the problem.
Any thoughts about the advisability of a used BCM, and/or twiddling with it myself? Does the BCM have to come from a car of precisely the same model and year?
Changing the instrument panel fuse did not fix the problem. It's been suggested that the problem is with the BCM (Body Control Module), or BCM circuit board.
A new BCM is about $500, and similar for the circuit board. Rather than paying the dealer $1000+ for new items, I was thinking about getting a BCM and/or board from a junkyard and putting it in myself, to see if that fixes the problem.
Any thoughts about the advisability of a used BCM, and/or twiddling with it myself? Does the BCM have to come from a car of precisely the same model and year?
#2
RE: Used BCM - Advisable?
There don`t appear to be many folks jumping up and down to answer this post... I take it there are 3 or 4 Eagle Vision owners on here, at best; but I digress.
Since your vehicle is pre ODB-II, I`d be comfortable using a BCM from model years 93-95. If your ride has the OTIS (mounted by the rear-view mirror) that indicates your vehicle is equipped with a premium BCM, as opposed to a standard one. They are different. The premium BCM contains circuitry to drive the automatic A/C, the OTIS display and the VTSS (on-board alarm system).
As for exact models... I`m betting a BCM from a `Trep, a `Corde, a New Yorker or an LHS would work in your Eagle.
Visions rock!!
Since your vehicle is pre ODB-II, I`d be comfortable using a BCM from model years 93-95. If your ride has the OTIS (mounted by the rear-view mirror) that indicates your vehicle is equipped with a premium BCM, as opposed to a standard one. They are different. The premium BCM contains circuitry to drive the automatic A/C, the OTIS display and the VTSS (on-board alarm system).
As for exact models... I`m betting a BCM from a `Trep, a `Corde, a New Yorker or an LHS would work in your Eagle.
Visions rock!!
#3
RE: Used BCM - Advisable?
Haven't ever had to replace the BCM in an eagle as of yet but just a couple of words of caution before you do:
Most need the VIN programmed into them
Sometimes when a used BCM is installed and has VTSS, vehicle theft security system, on it and the PCM doesn't it will tell the pcm it does and the vehicle wont start. to fix this you need a new pcm and bcm.
Most need the VIN programmed into them
Sometimes when a used BCM is installed and has VTSS, vehicle theft security system, on it and the PCM doesn't it will tell the pcm it does and the vehicle wont start. to fix this you need a new pcm and bcm.
#4
RE: Used BCM - Advisable?
ORIGINAL: dodgetech1
Haven`t ever had to replace the BCM in an eagle as of yet but just a couple of words of caution before you do:
Most need the VIN programmed into them
Haven`t ever had to replace the BCM in an eagle as of yet but just a couple of words of caution before you do:
Most need the VIN programmed into them
Sometimes when a used BCM is installed and has VTSS, vehicle theft security system, on it and the PCM doesn`t it will tell the pcm it does and the vehicle wont start. to fix this you need a new pcm and bcm.
#5
RE: Used BCM - Advisable?
I have heard a few horror stories on this topic, though I am not sure what makes / models they were....
When unsure, best to go with your gut instinct...
I say...go to your dealer, make friends, then ask for a discount. Remember...the economy sucks and they are almost desperate for business...you should be able to get a deal out of them if you ask.
Good luck!!!!
When unsure, best to go with your gut instinct...
I say...go to your dealer, make friends, then ask for a discount. Remember...the economy sucks and they are almost desperate for business...you should be able to get a deal out of them if you ask.
Good luck!!!!
#7
You can try unplug your VTSS on the keyring if is the same kind of 300M, on my M worked when i mounted a Mopar Remote Start ,before program the VTSS bypass modul , and started the car with a normal key , without ship.
#8
Eagle Vision VTSS disable
1. Remove the BCM from behind the passenger-side kick panel by removing 1 Phillips screw, lower it to unplug the connectors. If there are 2 connectors, you have a plain vanilla BCM. If there are 3, then you have a premium BCM.
2. Place it on a table. Undo the 4 Torx cover screws.
3. Examine the BLACK connector and locate pin 3. That's "lock disarm". Carefully solder a 4' length of 18 or 20 AWG wire to this pin, inside the case. Alternatively, you may splice into the harness wire; it's 20 AWG LG/OR.
4. Now look at the BONE connector and get pin 21. That's "body ground". Solder a wire to it inside the case. Or, splice into the harness again; 20 AWG BLK.
5. Extend the wires out of the case through a cooling slot. Put the BCM back together.
6. Plug all connectors back in and install the BCM back up in the kick panel.
7. Route 2 wires to a hidden but convenient spot under dash and connect a small SPST switch. If the alarm is tripped for any reason, pressing this switch will now reset it. It takes the place of a factory door cylinder switch.
Obviously, you don't want this switch to be real obvious. It is, after all, the alarm defeat.
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