I just hit 85K on my Pacifica AWD - I bought it at 18.5k as a certified, pre-used etc from local Chrysler dealer in Jan 05 - (they are sloppy and I don't go to them for maintenance anymore unfortunately. (Tried to persuade me my oilpan needed replacing for $300 when the next oil place just changed the oil without even a blink, and then quoted me $2k for front rack and pinion when my mechanic did it for $1200 etc)

I have a friend who has had an unending list of problems with her 04 Pacifica, so I just wanted to say that, despite the fact I have to drive the hell out of the car - average 20-23k a year - I haven't had any real problem with it at all. I live in the Sierra Foothills, so I sometimes have to drive from wet weather into ice and snow in less than half an hour, and I am usually transporting my two kids and half the time other kids in the carpool. The car has performed seamlessly for me and it wasa pothole that caused me to lose the rack and rod at the front, not product defect.

The reasons I would not purchase a Pacifica again are relatively simple.
[ul][*]The gas mileage really bothers me - after new tires it gets 23 maybe on the freeway. My husband talked me into the vehicle and my only regret is that with the amount I have to drive, I can't trade it in as we owe more than we could get.[*]The rear view is AWFUL! I am a careful, skilled driver and twice I actually tapped cars as I was reversing because I COULDN'T SEE THEM AT ALL!!! They were both low, smallish cars. and thank god I am careful or I would have actually damaged them, but the fact that I could not see them with either wing mirrow OR the rearview has really made me paranoid. I try to back into most parking spots as I am so paranoid that I could run over a kid or a small roadster car and never see it no matter how careful I am.[*]One of the rear tires is always deflating. No matter what I do .... it keeps reading as low on the computer every 3-4 days, and when I check it it really is low. I have had the tires replaced and the slow leak stopped for a couple of months but now it is back again. I've had the tire checked several times to find a leak and only once did they find a nail in the tire, but the other two times they said there was nothing wrong, but the tire keeps going low. I have had the rims checked for incomplete seal and I have no idea what else to do.[*]The clearance sucks. This is my fault as I allowed my husband to persuade me into the vehicle without properly assessing it. My former car had been a Honda CRV and it was a dreadful shock when I realized the Pacifica has no real clearance for dirt roads. My bad for believing my husband when he told me it had suv clearance.[*]The luggage rack on the roof. Again .. spousal ignorance ... it turns out that Thule and Yakima DO NOT MAKE kayak racks for the Pacifica due to STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY ISSUES. I have been told this by several dealers, so I am going to PRESUME that it is true. As I spend summer time going down a dirt road to the river to kayak, this car is sadly not a good fit for me in this regard. Irony? The irony is that my husband's Accord can be fitted with a kayak rack .... [>:] Pacifica does make a kayak rack, but only for one kayak, which doesn't help me at all. Truthfully, the luggage rack on the Pacifica really is pretty useless, although I had some success on a long camping trip with a canvas strap-on luggage carrier which attached to the existing pacifica one.[/ul]
All things considered, and this forum having been skimmed, I will say that I think I got off lightly. Overall the car is incredibly comfortable and I have to spend a great deal of time in it so I am grateful for that. I feel as though the kids are really safe with the AWD and airbags. It is a good, solid car for me and I am really appreciative of all the benefits. I really appreciate that I have not had any fuel pump or transmission issues, although the tranny is starting to feel a little stiff.

Is 85k an average time for an 04 AWD Pacifica tranny to go ka-boom?

Thanks for all the great information in here, I really appreciate it.

 

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November 2006

Dealer Service Instructions for:

Safety Recall F44

Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

Effective immediately, all repairs on involved vehicles are to be performed

according to this recall. Service Bulletin #18-039-05 is being cancelled.

2005 - 2006 (CS) Chrysler Pacifica

NOTE: This recall applies only to the above vehicles built from July 8, 2004

through November 24, 2005

(MDH 070800 through 112400).

IMPORTANT: Many of the vehicles within the above build period have already

been inspected or repaired and, therefore, have been excluded from this recall.

The fuel pump module and/or the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) software on

about 127,900 of the above vehicles may allow the engine to stall if the vehicle is

driven under certain operating conditions. This could cause a crash without warning.

The PCM must be reprogrammed (flashed) on all involved vehicles. The driver’s side

fuel pump module must also be replaced on vehicles built from August 1, 2004 through

September 30, 2004 (MDH 080100 through 093023). Refer to the DealerCONNECT

VIP function and/or the Global Recall System (GRS) to determine those VIN’s that

need a fuel pump and a PCM reprogram vs. those that need a PCM reprogram only.

Models

IMPORTANT: Some of the involved vehicles may be in dealer new vehicle

inventory. Federal law requires you to complete this recall service on these

vehicles before retail delivery.

apply to used vehicle inventory and should perform this recall on vehicles in for

service. Involved vehicles can be determined by using the VIP inquiry process.

Subject

Repair

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

A. Fuel Pump Module Package

Part Number Description

CBB2F440 Fuel Pump Module Package

Each package contains the following components:

Quantity Description

1 Module, Fuel Pump

1 Gasket, Fuel Pump Module

Each dealer

Module

September 30, 2004 (MDH 080100 through 093023).

NOTE: Only vehicles built within the above two month period require fuel pump

modules. Refer to the DealerCONNECT VIP function and/or the Global Recall

System (GRS) to determine those VIN’s that need a fuel pump and a PCM

reprogram vs. those that need a PCM reprogram only.

B. Authorized Modifications Label

Due to the likelihood that the required labels are already in your parts inventory, no

labels will be distributed initially. The following label may be ordered as needed.

Each vehicle requires application of the following labels:

Part Number Description

04275086AB Authorized Modifications Label

The following special tools are required to perform this repair:

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Parts Information

Special Tools

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

A. Reprogram the Powertrain Control Module

NOTE: An updated J1962 cable has been released. This cable has a red

colored connector at the DRBIII

® connection. Use this cable whenever a

flash is being performed.

NOTE: Whenever a controller is reprogrammed, the software in the

DRBIII scan tool must be programmed with the latest revision level

available.

NOTE: If the flash process is interrupted or aborted, the flash should be

restarted and then follow the directions on the DRBIII scan tool.

1. Before beginning the flash procedure, remove any old flash files from the

DRBIII memory. To clear the memory from the “

a. Simultaneously press the “

b. A screen will appear requesting a “

c. Follow the on screen instructions by selecting the “

d. When the DRBIII reboots to the MAIN MENU, continue with Step 2.

2. With the ignition switch in the “

number of the PCM currently in the vehicle. Using the DRBIII:

a. Select “

b. Select “

c. Select “

d. Select “

e. Select “

f. Record the “

Service Procedure

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

3. Connect the DRBIII to TechCONNECT. Open TechTOOLS and verify that the

“

TechTOOLS screen.

4. Enter the PCM part number recorded in Step 2f in the “

select “

5. Select the flash file.

6. Select the “

button.

7. Select the “

8. Monitor the “

TechCONNECT and follow the instructions on TechCONNECT. When the

flash process is complete, proceed to Step 9.

9. Disconnect the DRBIII from TechCONNECT.

10. Open the hood and install a battery charger. Using a voltmeter, verify that the

charging rate provides 13.2 – 13.5 volts. Set the battery charger to continuous

charge. Do not allow the charger to time out during the flash process.

11. Connect the DRBIII to the vehicle.

12. Download the flash file from the DRBIII to the vehicle. Using the DRBIII:

a. Select “

b. Follow the directions on the DRBIII screen.

c. When the flash process is complete, proceed to the next step.

13. Reset the “

14. Perform the transmission Quick learn Procedure as necessary.

Service Procedure (Continued)

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

15. Due to the PCM programming

procedure, a Diagnostic Trouble Code

(DTC) may be set in other modules

within the vehicle. Some DTC’s may

cause the Malfunction Indicator Lamp

(MIL) to illuminate. Check all

modules using “Module Scan�, record

the DTC’s and erase these DTC’s prior

to returning the vehicle to the customer.

Erase any DTC’s in the PCM only after all other modules have had their DTC’s

erased.

16. Turn off the battery charger and disconnect it from the vehicle.

17. Type or print (with a ballpoint pen) the recall number, dealer code and date on

an Authorized Modifications Label (Figure 1).

18. Attach the Authorized Modifications label near the VECI label.

19. For vehicles build from August 1, 2004 through September 30, 2004 (MDH 080100

through 093023) continue with

with a build date that is

pump module.

Service Procedure (Continued)

RECALL F44

Figure 1

Reprogram Powertrain Control Module

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

B. Replace Fuel Pump Module

NOTE: Fuel pump module replacement is only required on vehicles built from

August 1, 2004 through September 30, 2004 (MDH 080100 through 093023).

1. Release the fuel pressure from the fuel system using the following procedure:

a. Open the Power Distribution Center (PDC) cover located next to the battery

(Figure 2).

b. Remove the fuel pump relay (Figure 2).

NOTE: Refer to the PDC cover for fuel pump relay location.

c. Start the engine and allow it to run until the engine stalls.

2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.

3. Remove the fuel tank using the following procedure:

a. Drain the fuel from the fuel tank into a properly labeled

container.

b. Raise vehicle on an appropriate hoist.

c. Loosen the exhaust pipe clamp and

separate the exhaust system between

the catalytic converter and the

muffler.

d. Support the exhaust system with jack

stands.

e. Remove muffler hanger rubber

grommets.

f. Remove the center exhaust hanger

rubber grommets.

g. With the help of an assistant, remove

the rear portion of the exhaust system

and set it on the floor.

Service Procedure (Continued)

Figure 2

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

h. Disconnect the fuel tank electrical

connector located at the rear of the tank

(Figure 3).

i. Disconnect the fuel line, EVAP line, and

vapor recirculation tube located at the

right front corner of the fuel tank

(Figure 4).

j.

alignment marks on the driveshaft where

it attaches to the PTU and the rear axle.

k.

remove the front muffler heat shield.

l.

support driveshaft using jack stands.

m.

disconnect the rear end of the driveshaft.

n.

support/bearing bolts.

o.

disconnect the front end of the

driveshaft.

p.

with the help of an assistant, lower the

driveshaft assembly and set it aside.

q. Remove the left rear tire and wheel

well plastic splash shield.

r. Remove the fuel filler tube from the

rubber hose on the fuel tank.

s. Support the fuel tank with a

transmission jack.

t. Remove the two fuel tank straps.

u. Lower the fuel tank.

Service Procedure (Continued)

Figure 3

Figure 4

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

4. Place the fuel tank on the floor.

5. Using a vacuum cleaner, remove any

debris from the area around the

driver’s side fuel pump module lock

ring (Figure 5).

6. Disconnect the vapor line and the

electrical connector on the driver’s

side fuel pump module (Figure 5).

7. Using a brass punch and hammer, remove the driver’s side fuel pump module

lock ring (Figure 6).

NOTE: Use a brass punch to rotate

the lock ring 1/4 turn. Make contact

only at the points shown in Figure 6.

8. Lift the fuel pump module top and

disconnect the wire connector inside of

the tank for the passenger side level

sensor.

Service Procedure (Continued)

Figure 5

Figure 6

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

9. Remove the internal tank return fuel

line from pump module. Use a small

screwdriver to pry the lock tab back

and tilt the hose to one side. Pry the

lock tab back on other side to release

the hose (Figure 7).

CAUTION: Care should be taken

to not crack/break the locking tabs

or supply line fitting.

10. Remove the internal tank supply fuel

line from top of the pump module.

Use a small screwdriver to pry the

lock tab back and tilt the hose to one

side. Pry the lock tab back on other

side to release the hose (Figure 8).

11. Tip the fuel pump module on its side to remove fuel from the reservoir.

12. Remove and discard the fuel pump module assembly and gasket.

13. Place the new fuel pump module gasket into position.

14. Install the new fuel pump module

assembly into the fuel tank.

NOTE: The lower part of the fuel

pump module is off-set from the

upper part when correctly installed

into the tank (Figure 8).

15. Connect the return fuel line first and

then connect the supply fuel line to the

new fuel pump module (Figure 7).

16. Connect the wires from the passenger

side level sensor to the new pump

module.

Service Procedure (Continued)

Figure 7

ALIGNMENT

PIN

Figure 8

ALIGNMENT

PIN

LOWER

PART OF

FUEL PUMP

MODULE

UPPER

PART OF

FUEL PUMP

MODULE

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

17. Install the fuel pump module top to

fuel tank and then install the fuel pump

module lock ring.

NOTE: Use a brass punch to install

the lock ring 1/4 turn.

18. Connect the vapor line and the

electrical connector onto the driver’s

side fuel module (Figure 5).

19. Place the fuel tank back onto the

transmission jack.

20. Raise the fuel tank into position and install

the fuel tank straps. Tighten the mounting

strap bolts to 40 ft. lbs. (54 N·m).

21. Install the fuel filler tube onto the rubber fuel tank fill hose and tighten the

screw clamp securely.

22. Install the left rear wheel well plastic splash shield.

23. Install the tire/wheel assembly. Tighten the lug nuts to 100 ft. lbs. (135 N·m)

and in the sequence shown in Figure 9.

24.

stands.

25.

the front driveshaft onto the PTU. Install the front driveshaft bolts and tighten

to 22 ft. lbs. (30 N·m).

26.

support/bearing mounts. Tighten the support-to-body bolts to 40 ft. lbs.

(54 N·m).

27.

the driveshaft onto the rear axle. Then tighten the bolts to 40 ft. lbs (54 N·m).

Service Procedure (Continued)

Figure 9

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

28. Connect the fuel line, EVAP line and

vapor recirculation tube located at

the right front corner of the fuel tank

(Figure 4).

29. Connect the fuel tank electrical

connector located at the rear of the

tank (Figure 3).

30. With the help of an assistant, place

the rear portion of the exhaust system

into position and support the exhaust

system with jack stands.

31. Connect the inlet pipe of the front

muffler to the outlet pipe of the catalytic converter. Tighten the exhaust pipe

clamp to 40 ft. lbs. (54 N·m)

32. Install the center exhaust hanger rubber grommets.

33. Install the rear muffler rubber grommets onto the hangers (Figure 10).

34. Lower the vehicle from the hoist.

36. Fill the fuel tank with the fuel removed in Step 3a.

37. Install the fuel pump relay into the PDC and then close and latch the PDC cover.

38. Connect the negative battery cable.

39. Using the DRBIII scan tool to pressurize the fuel system, check for any fuel leaks.

40. Disconnect and remove the DRBIII from the vehicle.

Service Procedure (Continued)

Figure 10

MUFFLER

RUBBER

GROMMET

HANGER

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

Claims for vehicles that have been serviced must be submitted on the DealerCONNECT

Claim Entry Screen located on the Service tab. Claims submitted will be used by

DaimlerChrysler to record recall service completions and provide dealer payments.

Use the following labor operation numbers and time allowances:

Labor Operation Time

Number Allowance

PCM update previously performed 18-F4-41-81 0.2 hours

Reprogram the PCM 18-F4-41-82 0.7 hours

Replace fuel pump module

(MDH 080100 through 093023) &

PCM update previously performed 14-F4-41-82 1.3 hours

Replace fuel pump module

(MDH 080100 through 093023) &

reprogram the PCM 14-F4-41-83 2.0 hours

Optional Equipment

All Wheel Drive 14-F4-41-60 0.6 hours

Add the cost of the recall parts plus applicable dealer allowance to your claim.

NOTE: See the Warranty Administration Manual, Recall Claim Processing

Section, for complete recall claim processing instructions.

All dealers will receive three copies of this dealer recall notification letter by mail.

To view this notification on DealerCONNECT, select “Global Recall System� on

the Service tab, then click on the description of this notification.

Completion Reporting and Reimbursement

Dealer Notification

Safety Recall F44 – Fuel Pump Module and/or Reprogram PCM

All involved vehicle owners known to DaimlerChrysler are being notified of the

service requirement by first class mail. They are requested to schedule appointments

for this service with their dealers. A generic copy of the owner letter is attached.

Enclosed with each owner letter is an Owner Notification postcard to allow owners

to update our records if applicable.

All involved vehicles have been entered into the DealerCONNECT Global Recall

System (GRS) and Vehicle Information Plus (VIP) for dealer inquiry as needed.

GRS provides involved dealers with an updated VIN list of their incomplete vehicles.

The owner’s name, address and phone number are listed if known. Completed

vehicles are removed from GRS within several days of repair claim submission.

To use this system, click on the

System�.

vehicles that were unsold at recall launch, those with a phone number, city, zip

code, or VIN sequence.

Dealers must perform this repair on all unsold vehicles

before retail delivery.

Dealers should also use the VIN list to follow up with all owners to schedule

appointments for this repair.

Recall VIN lists may contain confidential, restricted owner name and address information that

was obtained from the Department of Motor Vehicles of various states. Use of this information

is permitted for this recall only and is strictly prohibited from all other use.

If you have any questions or need assistance in completing this action, please

contact your Service and Parts District Manager.

Customer Services Field Operations

DaimlerChrysler Corporation

Owner Notification and Service Scheduling

Vehicle Lists, Global Recall System, VIP and Dealer Follow Up

Additional Information

SAFETY RECALL F44 – FUEL PUMP MODULE AND/OR REPROGRAM PCM

Dear: (Name)

This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle

Safety Act.

DaimlerChrysler Corporation has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in

some

The problem is...

The fuel pump module and/or the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) software

on your vehicle

vehicle is driven under certain operating conditions. This could cause a crash

without warning.

What your dealer

will do...

DaimlerChrysler will repair your vehicle free of charge (parts and labor).

this, your dealer will reprogram your vehicle’s PCM. Some vehicles built within a

certain time frame must also have the fuel pump module replaced. This work will

require up to two hours to complete. However, additional time may be necessary

depending on how dealer appointments are scheduled and processed.

What you must

do to ensure your

safety...

Simply

dealer to hold the parts for your vehicle or to order them before your appointment.

Remember to bring this letter with you to your dealer.

If you need

help...

If you have questions or concerns which your dealer is unable to resolve, please

contact DaimlerChrysler at 1-800-853-1403.

Please help us update our records, by filling out the attached prepaid postcard, if any of the conditions

listed on the card apply to you or your vehicle.

If you have already experienced this condition and have paid to have it repaired, you may send your

original receipts and/or other adequate proof of payment to the following address for reimbursement:

DaimlerChrysler P.O. Box 4639 Oak Ridge, TN 37831, Attention: Reimbursement.

If your dealer fails or is unable to remedy this defect without charge and within a reasonable time, you

may submit a written complaint to the Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration,

400 Seventh Street, S.W., Washington, DC 20590, or call the toll-free Vehicle Safety Hotline at

1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to http://www.safercar.gov.

We're sorry for any inconvenience, but we are sincerely concerned about your safety. Thank you for your

attention to this important matter.

Customer Services Field Operations

DaimlerChrysler Corporation

Notification Code F44

Note to lessors receiving this recall: Federal regulation requires that you forward this recall notice to the lessee within 10 days.

 

i'm sorry that posting was alittle long but i think ite what every body has been looking for.i happened to find it on the web.moe

 

I have only had the car stall once (slow left turn on to a side street) in the four years I have owned the Pacifica. My wife was hit by an individual with no license and bald tires on an icy highway which caused us to have to have a motor mount (timing cover) replaced. There were ZERO new timing covers available to fix the car. At the time, there were five others in the system looking for the same part. After a month, the dealer finally installed a used part so that we could get the car back.

Love the car, gas mileage could be better; but the trade off for a safe car is worth it. Chryler's lack of a parts supply is shameful. I have never had this issue with the Ford and Nissan Vehicles I have owned.

Only issues I have had with the car are:
1. The first factor battery lasted one month, the second one about 2.5 years. The third battery I bought from autozone and have had no issues.
2. Back up sensors went out after about two years, fixed under warranty.
3. Check engine light came on due to gas cap. Buy your gas cap from someone other than the dealer ($50) for about $10 and you do not have to pay to have the light reset, it will go out on its own.

Again, love the car but not to happy with Chryler's support of the vehicle.

 

I've had my '05 Pac for over a year and never had this problem surface...

 

Have not had this happen. 05 Touring. bought used last year, and, most importantly, checked that all recalls had been done on the car.

 

try a fuel filter/they get over looked all the time

 

fuel filters wont cause an intermittent stall

 

04 pacifica can anyone please tell me why I keep blowing fan modules, everytime I replace the module thats behind the glove box the fan works for about a week and then it blows out again (100 bucks each) any input would be great and I thank you

 

the fan motor is self more then likely and why are u paying for a part u just put in no warranty on the part?