Haynes vs Alldata vs MOPAR CD?
#1
Haynes vs Alldata vs MOPAR CD?
I am curious which of these above manufacturers of repair manuals would you guys recommend ?
Alldata is a online one from Autozone, of course I am sure you all know what Haynes is and last one is a CD from MOPAR.
Normally I would expect MOPAR CD be the best one except for 2 things, one it is $90, two I am probably only able to do a few repairs myself like oil changes, air filter, spark plugs and possible replace most all light bulbs, I do not have the proper tools for brakes or anything else requiring diagnostic tools but I would still like a basic idea of what may have to be done in certain repairs so I have a ballpark idea of time involved so I know I am not being swindled.
Both the Alldata and Haynes manuals are approx $27 with haynes being in a book with no additions once I purchase it and Alldata is Digital with 1 year of added info if there is any.
Now I may consider teh MOPAR CD if there is enough additional data included to where you think it would be worthy of the extra cash realizing I doubt at anytime in the future I will be aquiring any of the special tools, etc to do anything over minor repairs.
Thanks for all the helps so far this is a huge leap for me as my newest model year vehicle I have owned prior was a 1992 Caravan C/V in which I did all repairs including engine R&R.
Alldata is a online one from Autozone, of course I am sure you all know what Haynes is and last one is a CD from MOPAR.
Normally I would expect MOPAR CD be the best one except for 2 things, one it is $90, two I am probably only able to do a few repairs myself like oil changes, air filter, spark plugs and possible replace most all light bulbs, I do not have the proper tools for brakes or anything else requiring diagnostic tools but I would still like a basic idea of what may have to be done in certain repairs so I have a ballpark idea of time involved so I know I am not being swindled.
Both the Alldata and Haynes manuals are approx $27 with haynes being in a book with no additions once I purchase it and Alldata is Digital with 1 year of added info if there is any.
Now I may consider teh MOPAR CD if there is enough additional data included to where you think it would be worthy of the extra cash realizing I doubt at anytime in the future I will be aquiring any of the special tools, etc to do anything over minor repairs.
Thanks for all the helps so far this is a huge leap for me as my newest model year vehicle I have owned prior was a 1992 Caravan C/V in which I did all repairs including engine R&R.
#2
Being a Chrysler Technician, I'm finding it difficult to be impartial. But thats probably because I have come to have factory info at my disposal at all times.......
I also have access to Alldata Pro...which is good, but not nearly as accurate as factory.
For occassional use, I would recommend HAYNES, ...Its relatively cost effective, and for basic repairs, there is no need to spend OODLES of money on info like" Dashboard trim screw torque". Downside is, as mentioned, its in BOOK form.....which means no additional updated Info...But I dont think they will be redesigning anything for a 6 year old vehicle anytime soon.....what you have is what will be for the rest of its life.
Still yet another option.....Internet forums like this one....There is a wealth of info on just about Anything you can come up against, if you know where to look and what to ask.
92 CV?????...Surprisingly enough...you will find that alot of the basic principles of "HOW IT WORKS" Havent Changed. They may have gotten more Complex, but the priciples are still the same........Circuit J2 14 DB/W is the designation for ignition feed. it has been called that since the late sixties, and is still in use today.
I also have access to Alldata Pro...which is good, but not nearly as accurate as factory.
For occassional use, I would recommend HAYNES, ...Its relatively cost effective, and for basic repairs, there is no need to spend OODLES of money on info like" Dashboard trim screw torque". Downside is, as mentioned, its in BOOK form.....which means no additional updated Info...But I dont think they will be redesigning anything for a 6 year old vehicle anytime soon.....what you have is what will be for the rest of its life.
Still yet another option.....Internet forums like this one....There is a wealth of info on just about Anything you can come up against, if you know where to look and what to ask.
92 CV?????...Surprisingly enough...you will find that alot of the basic principles of "HOW IT WORKS" Havent Changed. They may have gotten more Complex, but the priciples are still the same........Circuit J2 14 DB/W is the designation for ignition feed. it has been called that since the late sixties, and is still in use today.
#3
hmm great point, So far I only have a couple issues that I have not figured out so that a book is needed, Then again if I do start looking into Wrecking yards and Vehicles with features I do not have it would be extremely handy to have the MOPAR data on exactly what I would want to make sure to pull and bring home with me to ensure I have as much wiring, switches, relays, fuses, etc. etc. as I can pull of of donor vehicle to make install as painless as possible. I would hate to figure out I forgot a relay or a connector or something I overlooked only to return and find the specific vehicle is now a roll of sheet metal back east. I out of curiousity looked up random items and seen how expensive they can end up becoming.
So since I just realized that I guess I will see what I can find online and then decide from there what is the best one to get.
BTW could you send me in the direction where I can figure out how to replace the Instrument lamp that Illuminates the fuel gauge on the Premium Instrument cluster? I believe they list it as a PC 74 Bulb which I have never heard of nor have I actually found yet online.
So since I just realized that I guess I will see what I can find online and then decide from there what is the best one to get.
BTW could you send me in the direction where I can figure out how to replace the Instrument lamp that Illuminates the fuel gauge on the Premium Instrument cluster? I believe they list it as a PC 74 Bulb which I have never heard of nor have I actually found yet online.
#4
PC 74 Bulb
Once you get the cluster out and In your hands...remove the socket from the PC board...( Yes Printed Circuit Board...Hence PC-74) If you can remove the bulb from the base without damaging it, then a plain old 74 will do.
#6
Thanks I apreciate it as I have not tried it but It was my lucky day 2 days ago ( I should of bought a QP on all three major lotterys) as I was basically given 4007 pages of the 2005 T&C and Caravan service manual #81-370-05162 and a RG Diesel supplement manual along with the 2005 RG Voyager, Town & Country and Caravan Technical Publications.
I don't possibly think I could of found anything that has more information then this does, It has info I may never even get to read and some I know for a fact I will never even remotly think of using.
But it sure is neat to look at I love stuff like this, I actually learned almost all I knwo about repairs from reading my dads collections of Motors Manuals he has from when he was in his 20's I believe, back when you rebuilt almost everything on a vehicle instead of buying rebuilt stuff, IE Alternators, Starters, Distributors, Carbs, Master and wheel cylinders etc. etc. etc.
So its kinda cool that I know how to d all that as I do not know anyone anymore that even remotely has a clue as to what I am talking about when I mention a brake cylinder Hone, or replacing brushes and cleaning up the ( darn I forgot the name of the Item in a starter and alternator that spins (Reluctor? Stator is the stationary part I think? its been over 25 years since I read one of them but I am fortunate enough to have them listed in their will for me to recieve when they no longer can read or pick them up for that matter.
Those books are like priceless items to me.
I don't possibly think I could of found anything that has more information then this does, It has info I may never even get to read and some I know for a fact I will never even remotly think of using.
But it sure is neat to look at I love stuff like this, I actually learned almost all I knwo about repairs from reading my dads collections of Motors Manuals he has from when he was in his 20's I believe, back when you rebuilt almost everything on a vehicle instead of buying rebuilt stuff, IE Alternators, Starters, Distributors, Carbs, Master and wheel cylinders etc. etc. etc.
So its kinda cool that I know how to d all that as I do not know anyone anymore that even remotely has a clue as to what I am talking about when I mention a brake cylinder Hone, or replacing brushes and cleaning up the ( darn I forgot the name of the Item in a starter and alternator that spins (Reluctor? Stator is the stationary part I think? its been over 25 years since I read one of them but I am fortunate enough to have them listed in their will for me to recieve when they no longer can read or pick them up for that matter.
Those books are like priceless items to me.
#7
Armature......
Problem with that these days is that by the time you piece together everything you need....You have spent more than the part is worth, and you still havent started fixing it...
Now...take those Manuals, lay them out by number , and notice that the table of contents, sends you to another book. Once you get the hang of it, it works very well, But if your looking for something specific, the first few tries can be nerve racking...
Problem with that these days is that by the time you piece together everything you need....You have spent more than the part is worth, and you still havent started fixing it...
Now...take those Manuals, lay them out by number , and notice that the table of contents, sends you to another book. Once you get the hang of it, it works very well, But if your looking for something specific, the first few tries can be nerve racking...
#8
LOL I was all sorts of confused at first until I realized it was constructed that way, I have seen some other extensive manuals set up the same way (actually only feasable way to do it , if they tried to make then into one book it would be to heavy and cumbersome to use effeciently). You have a point about price in rebuilding but on many occasions I have been able to revive a dead starter or alternator without purchasing a single item by pulling them apart and cleaning up brushes, and cleaning grooves in between each section where brushes contact as I have seen them on occasion get shorts between 2 or 3 sections, It is not as good as a rebuilt one but if it enables you to drive to work for another week or at least until you get paid and can buy a replacement is very handy, I know alot of people cannot grasp the idea of not having the money or at least a Credit Card use but for many years when I was younger for some reason I never had anything break down when it was nice and sunny or I had money saved it was always during the worst storm of the year or a few hours after I purchased something using my saved money.
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